Bad Press

Outside of certain circles, this guy is hardly known. He is, in fact, Accordion George.

But enough of that. People may wonder why I keep on about the Press writing drivel about the Amanda Todd story, so here’s an example:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3128392/mum-of-teen-who-committed-suicide-after-years-of-blackmail-by-paedo-aydin-coban-tells-of-relief-at-his-sentencing/

‘Amanda Todd was 11 when he was said to have put her topless picture on a porn site and told her Facebook pals.’

‘Amanda had flashed her breasts for a couple of seconds during a jokey webcam session in a chat room with around 200 other users.

Coban was one of them and he took a screen shot of her lifting her top and used it to blackmail her.’

Well, we know that Amanda wasn’t 11 when it all kicked off. But they kind of get it right about the webcam session, but to call it jokey is very odd.

The Sun is a major British newspaper, so I would expect better, but it just shows how lazy it’s all become.

Compare this to the BBC account:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39295474

They’ve gone for ‘Todd said she was lured by a stranger to show her breasts on a webcam’ lifted straight from the video.

Interest in the story has waned again. The blog got a peak in visits a few days ago but it’s tailed off rapidly. As far as I know, there’s an appeal against the Aydin Coban sentence being launched, which could delay things for ages, and I think there is also an appeal against the extradition. It looks as if Aydin will be flown to Canada as soon as everything is cleared up, but there was a rumour that if he wasn’t extradited then the Canadians would go to Holland to pursue the case.

The case really hasn’t got much traction in the UK, and I don’t quite get why that is, as it involved UK girls. I think people just can’t be bothered with it now.

From what I can see, cyberbullying and all these types of story have dropped off the radar to a certain extent. We’ve had a couple of cases recently in the UK. It’s hard to put my finger on it, but there’s just not that much interest in these stories any more. The lesser newspapers still carry the stories, but it’s all sort of become low-level clickbait stuff. I’m not sure if that’s come from the sensible guidelines that the Press follow to avoid suicide sensationalism, but my gut feeling is that the grief value has become so much smaller. People watch the telly or look at Facebook, see a story, have about five minutes of ‘OMG! How tragic!’ and then move on to a picture of a fluffy cat, what the Kardashians have done, some gossip. Suicide stories don’t attract likes, and people don’t want to share doom and gloom too much. Teen suicides have just become part of the vacuous online flotsam and jetsam now.

In the UK, we had a similar response to the refugee crisis. A few months ago it was all a terrible tragedy, pictures of a dead child, the works. Now? Things got worse, but nobody gives a shit as we’re all panicked by Brexit or gawping at Trump now.

Oh well. That’s life.

 

 

 

 

What happens next….Part 2

OK, so it’s a bit of a poor choice of video.

Aydin Coban has been sentenced, which is no surprise. There’s news of an appeal, but that’s no surprise either, as appeals can be a gravy train for lawyers. The appeal also looks a bit feeble, going for the inadmissible evidence approach (the keylogger) rather than some sort of miscarriage of justice.

The reporting has been drivel as usual, with most media just doing a lazy cut and paste job.

What really interests me is how the extradition to Canada (if it ever happens) will pan out, and how Aydin Coban will be placed in the chronology. The trouble is that the scenarios are just too great to predict.

Will the courts go for the story that Aydin was the prime mover of the whole thing, that it was him who either approached Amanda when she was 11, or flattered her when she was 12, or caught her on BlogTV?

Will the courts insist that Amanda was online simply due to threats from Aydin?

The 11 year old story is too outrageous to be true, and the BlogTV events disprove all the flattery thing, so they will go for a history far closer to the truth and almost exactly the same as the story from the Scottish girl in the prior post. So Aydin will have appeared on the scene post-BlogTV as AliceMcalister and then again as Tyler Boo after the ‘new material’ that the RCMP reported in 2011.

I was going to write a longer post as now there are a few latecomers to the blog. However, explaining everything for them is too tedious.

My only question now is: where does this leave Carol Todd? Will she try to persist with all the variations or finally admit that things aren’t quite as clear as she lets on? I would guess that it’s a quandary for her.

Anyways. We’ll have to wait and see.

What happens next?

Aydin Coban is due for sentencing this week (either tomorrow or the day after). My guess is that he will be found guilty, but it may be a tough call. Who knows? I would also guess that there will be an immediate appeal.

The story still remains curious. It remains almost completely ignored by the UK press and hasn’t really had much impact elsewhere. There has been an interesting article here:

https://stv.tv/news/scotland/1382399-scots-girls-targeted-in-nude-webcam-blackmail-plot/

It’s interesting because the girl is just so typical of all the victims, saying:

She said: “I was not getting a lot of attention from family and friends so I found it was a way for me to get attention elsewhere.

“I would go online and do loads of pictures of myself. Nude pictures of myself when I was underage.

“They were from the span of maybe 11 years old to 14 years old. I was posting them on online forums like 4chan. I would also do live streams where people would watch me get naked and stuff.

“They gave me a lot of affection and compliments. It made me want to keep doing it because I felt good.”

This is in keeping with the Amanda Todd story, and, of course, is way off from all the tales of Coban being some sort of silver-tongued tempter. Indeed, the words of the Scottish girl (who I guess is Gemma) would be identical to a testimony from Amanda and all the rest of the victims.

However, what is more confusing is that Carol Todd is still in some sort of crazy denial. There’s another new article here:

‘The more skin you show, the more likes you get’: The virtual lives of Canadian teen girls

From that:

“We talked about Amanda in grade seven and eight, but something wild would have to happen for us to talk about her again,” Becky said. “My parents are concerned, but they’re not that concerned, and most parents don’t check into what their kids are posting online.”

When the topic of online predators and cyberbullying is discussed during a grade 10 English class at Central Toronto, one female student falls asleep; you get the impression they’ve heard it all too many times before.

but Carol Todd seems to have missed the whole thing:

“Amanda loved to sing and posted videos on YouTube and someone found her account, pretended he was close to her age, paid her a compliment and kids being kids, girls — she fell for it,” says Todd, who has now returned from Amsterdam to Port Coquitlam.

Carol Todd still appears to want the story to be the old myth of ‘she was tricked’, which by now everyone knows is a load of baloney. In another Carol Todd version, Amanda was approached by someone who promised her a career in music. In yet another version, it was all the people from BlogTV. In yet another version, some lunatic turned up and threatened to visit Amanda in real life unless she flashed.

If Coban does get extradited to Canada, I’m not sure how Mrs Todd will cope with what will surely be an in depth investigation of the history. There’s always that ‘careful what you wish for’ element, but maybe we will get the full truth eventually. Then, perhaps, people might concentrate on more important issues – not just why kids like the Scottish girl go online and flash the flesh for likes, but why nobody seems bothered  about tackling the sites that exist to allow it all.

However, there is a scenario which I think may be not far from what will actually happen. I’m predicting that Aydin Coban will end up in prison and that the Canadian authorities will say that that’s the end of it – he’s guilty, it’s all his fault, end of story. I say that because I think that the RCMP and others won’t want to be shown up as incompetent idiots who handled the case badly, and there will be a huge desire to keep the Amanda Todd myth intact. Nobody, not even Carol Todd, will want to acknowledge the extent to which they fucked up.

Aydin Coban supervillain

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Aydin Coban is back in court today, but nothing new is added apart from the threat of a 10 year prison sentence. What impact that would have on his extradition I don’t know. My initial thoughts are that Coban will do his time in Holland and it will be seen that extraditing someone to be found guilty of what is essentially the same crime is pointless. Or perhaps he’ll be taken to Canada for some sort of show trial and the sentence will run concurrently. What has confused me here is that none of the other countries involved have asked for similar actions.

The sheer breadth of his actions is astonishing, but then these crimes were spread over a period of time.

The evidence seems complete and really it looks like case closed. If we assume that all the evidence is correct, a guilty verdict is inevitable. I’m guessing that the eventual defence (due on February 15th I think) will split into two: complete denial, blaming the mysterious Murat, with a possible plea that the evidence was gained illegally.

My own feelings are mixed. Part of me doubts that it is Coban because his ability to con people seems great. I can quite imagine the dumbass blackmail threats, but then his ability to take on a myriad of characters seems too clever by half. But then, of course, we’re missing the absolute stupidity of people online. If dumbass blokes from England and Australia get conned into stuff with minors without thinking there might be consequences, what chance do even dumber kids have?

It will be interesting to see the post-sentence rewriting of history. From my point of view, it’s a big task to work out where Coban fits into the chronology. I’m guessing that the Press will come up with something like this:

Way back when Amanda Todd was 11, 12 or 13, Amanda was approached online by the supervillain Aydin Coban, tricked into flashing, and blackmailed from then on. Each of her appearances online – BlogTV and so on – were down to Aydin Coban and it’s all his fault.

That version of the story will protect the Angel image and people won’t have to deal with the messier aspects of it all.

However, it’s never that simple. There are too many variables. Just pinning down the early history is a nightmare. Here’s a brief overview of the complications:

In one account, Amanda was threatened with death when she was 11 by some online predator. In her video account, she was flattered by a stranger in a one-to-one encounter when she was in 7th grade (close to being 12 years old). Then the BlogTV incident was when she was 13.

After the BlogTV and the cops palaver, the next puzzling thing is that Amanda was straight back online via Ustream, and we have Norm telling us that Amanda thought it was all ‘no big deal’. (Just where is Norm? He’s kind of non-existent these days).

If that’s not enough, we then have the RCMP no less telling us that Amanda produced ‘new material’ and warning the Todds to get her offline, and reference to this material occurring in the Tyler Boo conversations.

All quite a mess to untangle.

The Dutch procedures seem to be a fait accompli. Coban would have to be some sort of criminal Houdini to get out of this. If the case ever comes to Canada it will be interesting to see just what skeletons will be brought out of the cupboard.

Anyways. Usually, when I think I’ve got this tale pinned down, something comes in out of the blue. After February 15th maybe everything will be clearer.

 

Round and round we go.

Sheesh this is all so confusing.

I’ve been going back over some of the content of this blog, and it looks so weird. But then, it really is all too weird. In context of all the conflicting information that was flying around, it wasn’t surprising that it looked all so crazy.

So I’ll just quickly show some parts of the jigsaw.

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This was a warning from Alice McAlister way back at the end of 2010. Alice gets mentioned in Carol’s blog:

https://caroltoddsnowflakes.wordpress.com/2014/12/06/did-pink-floyd-have-purple-bricks-part-2/

“I also wish that I had continued the conversation with ‘Alice McAlister’ instead of ‘ignoring and not responding’.  I wish that the person behind the name ‘Tyler Boo’ had never existed.  I wish Amanda were alive.  Sadly, none of the three things can be changed — EVER!!”.

So Alice McAlister gives a warning that Amanda is in trouble and runs the risk of being blackmailed, which is fair enough. Then it turns out that Alice McAlister is (allegedly) Aydin Coban.

Then we get Austin Collins and the infamous Facebook account. He’s meant to be Aydin Coban.

Then we get Tyler Boo who is friends with Amanda on Facebook. He’s also Aydin Coban.

Alice McAlister, Austin Collins, Tyler Boo. All the same person. All Aydin Coban.

These pics are, as far as I know, in order.

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rubbish

Note that the above story is contradicted in Amanda’s tragic video, which tells us she was flattered. From one press piece at the time: “The horror began when a predator took advantage of an overly trusting 12-year-old. A pedophile who stalked young girls with webcams called her “stunning, beautiful, perfect,”.

Followed by what now seems to be an appalling response from the RCMP.

full rcmp

Nothing new

Nothing happening today, so another lazy post.

A few references to the Cappers from way back in history.

http://www.alternet.org/cappers-horrifying-creeps-who-trick-underage-girls-strip-online

http://www.dailydot.com/society/sick-pedophile-ring-blackmail-amanda-todd/

From the Daily Dot:

“As the Daily Dot reported Monday, Amanda Todd’s oblique connection to the group can be found in two videos, dating from Dec. 19 2010 and Dec. 10 2010. Importantly, the capper crowd didn’t seem to know Todd very well. The first video, which announced her appearance on the scene, calls her a “mystery girl” and wonders if the video might have been recorded and set on a loop.

A mysterious BlogTV girl named Amanda is said to flash her tits randomly at low view counts when she “feels horny.” She flashed twice this Thursday, the second one when she had over 90 viewers. Her account, which is named b33 has lasted for over a year and according to the stats she has over 33 live shows under belt … After she got off BlogTV chatters voiced their suspicions that Amanda was actually a video loop. Her repetitive unvaried movements and lack of sound certainly seem to support that suspicion. As does the fact that she disconnected before the chat, as one would do when one was changing from one loop to another.”

Way back then, I left this out of the blog as it seemed unlikely that Amanda was actually b33, but who knows?

And of course people were certain of who the real criminal was:

http://hypervocal.com/news/2012/amanda-todd-kody-maxson-daily-capper/

There has been a surprising lack of any coverage by the media so far, but I guess that it will all be waiting until Carol Todd turns up in court next week. I must admit that I find that a bit dodgy, as it adds a whole different feeling to the procedures and runs the risk of turning it into an emotional drama centred on Amanda, particularly as she is not involved in the current case. On the other hand, maybe it will be welcomed by all the victims as it adds dramatic weight to what seems to be an inevitable guilty verdict.

Carol’s blog shows a translation of some of the stuff.

https://caroltoddsnowflakes.wordpress.com/2017/01/30/english-twitter-translation-of-first-3-days/

Unless there is a miracle, it really looks like case closed on Aydin Coban now. Though it will be extremely tough to trace him all the way back to the initial appearances of Amanda online, it looks like he played a definite role. The reason I seem so reticent in condemning him straight off is that it doesn’t all fit well. As we can see, the fact that he is meant to be Kody Maxson throws it all up in the air. Carol Todd seems to be aware that it’s not as straightforward as all that too, saying in her blog somewhere (and in the media, I think) that it wasn’t just one person who brought her down, it was many.

The Dutch Supreme Court is announcing the result of Coban’s appeal against extradition today. I’m hoping he will be extradited as that will truly open up a can of worms, not only because the whole gruesome story will come out but also because the RCMP will have a few questions to answer about how badly they tackled the whole thing from December 2010 onwards. One of the things that has been mentioned in the Dutch court is compensation, ranging from a few hundred euros up to a few thousand, so will the RCMP have to pay for their mistakes?

What I’m not understanding at the moment is the shortage of interest in the case. An English and a Scottish girl are involved, but that’s not been picked up by anyone here apart from a brief article in the Daily Mail. There’s also another Canadian girl involved and at least one from the USA. At some point, the Press reported that the case wasn’t going to be international, but it makes me wonder why Amanda has been omitted and it also makes me question why the Dutch allowed Aydin to publish his ‘I am innocent’ letter.

The other thing I’m not getting is the time scales. Victims are saying that they flashed or whatever in 2008 but weren’t contacted until 4 years later. I don’t know why that would happen, unless Coban simply went back and re-visited old Capper videos.

I leave you with an opinion from one of Aydin’s victims. It’s completely trustworthy as I have verified it with the files that are in the hands of the the Dutch court. In fact, I think she’s already been quoted in the proceedings.

“ There will be hundreds and hundreds of girls who got blackmailed in the last few years, and every one of them would like to be able to blame Aydin Coban.”
I’m sure that is true. I believe that many of the girls want closure, so they will be quick to pin the blame on anyone they can for a cathartic emotional release, though they don’t actually have all the facts.
Especially because, yes, blackmailing is common amongst 4chan users.
I don’t see myself as an innocent victim, truly.
I wasn’t “seduced” into doing any of the things that I did. He contacted me afterwards. It was simply illogical actions I made in my youth in the year of 2010 as well, actually. He contacted me in 2012.
I also believe he did the same with the majority of the others (contacted them afterwards). I doubt that he was able to court young girls on a solo basis, but I do not believe that makes his crimes any less severe.
I could be wrong, but wasn’t Amanda streaming on web chat sites like Stickam/YouStream which broadcasts her video to multiple viewers at a time?
More than likely, she was swept up by the attention from a variety of people and her information was released afterwards which was used for blackmail; that’s my theory. That seems to be extremely common.
They’re so young; they don’t have a solid grasp of the concept of repercussions of actions because they don’t have the past experience to know and learn from.
I do not think an extremely young person (especially if they are undisciplined as in Jessica Leonhardt’s case) understands the concept of if you do A, B and C will happen because of it.
They don’t look into the future to reason that something will happen to them afterwards because they haven’t really experienced anything significant yet to learn from.
It goes without saying, children shouldn’t have unmonitored internet access while communicating with much older strangers whom can adeptly manipulate an inferior mind.
Though, in Amanda’s case, I may be wrong. He may have had different ways of going about it which are each unique to the victim. I say that because something that confused me when reading your posts was that he allegedly blackmailed people so that he could extort money from them.
If that was true, why was he contacting very young girls? Unless, he only extorted money from a select amount of victims… or he lied to throw people off of his trail, or so that he did not look to be a pedophile in the eyes of other people, though I do agree he is the type of person who enjoys being imprisoned.
Yes; the images were sent, and I did contact the authorities. He sent them to the school board and a select amount of my Facebook friends list (he said that if I did not cave in to do the shows, he would send the photos to the remaining amount of my friends list) which got me into a hindrance with the police for producing child pornography.
The authorities took control of my online accounts, destroyed the computer I used to produce the material, and they notified me that the account he used to contact me was accessed via the Netherlands and that they found this out from Facebook (this was in 2012), but that it was unlikely that they would be able to locate/arrest him.
I don’t know if I’m remembering correctly, but I think it had to do with laws as well as a lack of capability.
I began homeschooling after the events.
The FBI contacted me in 2014 of January; they came to my home, told me the person behind the Facebook account in which he used to contact me was in police custody and proceeded to fill me in on the details of the case.
I too was skeptical that it was truly him until they showed me the mugshot. They offered to fly me out to the Netherlands free of charge, but I declined.
A quote from him,
“just 9 days ago i got one arrested and shes now forbiden to use internet during the entire proces, her dad got arrested too cos he happened to have weed in the house, lulz.”
And when googling his Skype name, I found this thread. Clearly, he was not lying about having multiple victims.
It seems to me to be an act of sexual deviance; he seems to derive arousal by the act of having control over somebody “dirty” or weak and extorting pleasure from the emotional pain it causes.
He even made a Skype account to contact me with my name in the blank: “___’s master”
I also think he is a legitimate sociopath. I believe he is masquerading as an unassuming, quiet man; the type of person you would not expect.
I too agree sending a photo of himself is extremely foolish; I genuinely begged and pried it out of him every day until he did. Initially, he only sent a photo with half of his face and a paper with my name written onto it.
He would always accuse me of manipulating him in order to gain information, and it was obvious that being identified was something that invoked fear.
I believe the reason for why he befriended me was for a power play. Half for control, half for loneliness.
It is ridiculous, but he made me a deal (due to the fact that I was not agreeing to do the shows?) that is that if I befriended him, he would “let me off the hook”. He is clearly mentally ill.
I theorize that it was his way of regaining control; to gain something, because I did not seem to distraught when he sent the images to my friends.
Yet, he got it into his head that I was prying for information and sent them to the entirety of my friends list under a different aliases.
He stopped talking to me when I confronted him.
Then, he would proceed to come back under different aliases and send them to my friends list every few months. It stopped abruptly in January of 2014.
He admits that he hacks the neighbors Wi-Fi in the messages he sent me, and in his open letter, did he not claim that the router belonged to one of his former neighbors that was used to contact Amanda? That “anyone could access it?” Also, he revealed to me that there are 30,000 houses in his vicinity.
I do understand the skepticism as it is not very convincing; it’s solely my word. It could have been any 4chan user that contacted me in your eyes. If I located the photos of himself, it would be a different story in that regard.
I never knew of his literal age until the police told me he was 35 the time in which he was arrested.
I will try to locate the photos he sent to me.”
Now please people, at least give me some applause for bringing you exclusive information again.

Kody1206 is Kody Maxson is Aydin Coban

kody1206

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Sorry. Another repeat.

These are my  3 guesses:

The Kody stuff was created as a new alias after all the hooha.

The Kody stuff is there because Facebook didn’t filter it out.

Aydin is kody1206 which makes no sense at all.

Although Omroep Brabant have tried to big this all up as world news, in reality there’s not much.

Anyway. Maybe something interesting will happen next week.

So….Kody Maxson is Aydin Coban? Things truly have gone full circle.

The top screen is yet more Aydin Coban info on Dutch TV. Note: kody1206@live.com

Who is Kody1206? Come along, pay attention.

Well – he could be https://twitter.com/kody1206

But he’s much more famous than that.

He’s here:

kody1

he’s there:

kody2

he’s everywhere:

http://pastebin.com/exWNuycF

http://pastebin.com/0vMR0Beg

He gets picked up at http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/tracing-kody-maxson-the-online-blackmailer-alleged-to-have-tormented-amanda-todd

And he fills the comments on Carol’s blog:

https://caroltoddsnowflakes.wordpress.com/2013/03/18/march-18th-so-many-stories-out-there/

And blimey

“Peyton: no one else has gotten this much attention by doing so little, her drama with Kody1206 has become the talk of BlogTV, the cam site of the year”. It goes on to say that Kody1206 is “famous for his blackmail of Peyton, streaming her videos on BlogTV and TinyChat and threatening her in public.”

This is so crazy.

Al least we know now that marc4 is Marc Cameron.

Now for a very funny coincidence – is this me? (Brightonsbest).

brightonsbest

I leave you with this for now.

 

Sensation! Aydin Coban’s blackmail victim speaks out

I’m getting really lazy. This is just a repeat of an old post (slightly amended) about which I had my doubts but now maybe I have to think again.

OK. Zero out of ten for the headline. I should have written ‘You’re not going to believe what happens next…’ or ‘This will shock you..’ like all the other dreadful clickbait titles.

Anyways. These are – allegedly – examples of Aydin Coban’s interaction online from early 2012. The first one is edited just so there’s no way of tracing the source. You can take these any way you want – with a pinch of salt because it could be anybody writing, or as a genuine example of his technique. As always, it’s all a bit weird.

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The following is now seeming to be much more like a genuine connection to Aydin. I guess that Ida might be the Norwegian girl:

aydin_confidential

While I’m at it, I might as well provide a few more old pics of Aydin at work.

marc2

Marc aka Aydin

dylanpolo

amandaohgod

iwillsendit

kody2

That last one is most peculiar. According to the court records, not only is Aydin Coban Alice McAlister (who contacted Carol Todd) he’s also listed as the infamous Kody Maxson, which brings everything full circle to:

wibble

And that, in turn, takes us to Viper2323, which takes us to the Daily Capper, which of course has to link us with r0r44 aka r0ra aka Oscar.

http://hypervocal.com/news/2012/kody-maxson-blackmail-victim-peyton/

Then of course it’s on to Peyton.

No wonder I have a tough time trying to work out who’s who and what’s what.

 

Amanda Todd wasn’t on her own

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As the Coban trial continues, it gets more shocking. Apparently he had 204,000 porn pics on his hard drive, he was in trouble with the Grijze Wolven. As most of it is in Dutch it’s a pain to work out the details. Add in the thing about 7 gay Australians and it starts getting too weird.

Meanwhile I’ve reissued these pics from the catalogue. The clip is actually far worse than this can show and makes the BlogTV episode look mild. It’s really this clip that puzzles me most as it’s so far away from the ‘it was a brief flash’ storyline and involves another kid who was very much part of Amanda’s scene but never gets a mention.

Because of this clip, Amanda’s BlogTV shows and so on, it’s tough to match the current narrative of one action followed by years of torment.

Just in case anyone thinks this isn’t Amanda, then OK, you’re entitled to that. Just ask Carol Todd though – she’ll remember that Amanda had a pair of trousers (or ‘pants’ as they are called in the USA) with ‘CHEER’ written on the bottom. And she’ll recognise the soft toy. And Amanda’s old bedrooom.

It looks as if there are a few latecomers to the blog, so rather tediously I have to re-visit old news.

 

 

 

Aydin Coban’s identities

The Coban trial has started. Some of these aliases have been mentioned –  mainly that Aydin was online as Katey Meow/Miow.

At the moment it’s quite confusing. Aydin is accused of just about every online crime available. He’s supposed to have extorted gay men which is feasible but the breadth of his online behaviour just seems too astonishing. Part of the story is puzzling me, as they seem to be making up patterns of extortion that don’t sit right, e.g. the victim is approached but not extorted until years later. My opinion is that they are trying to say that it is true that Aydin could have been on the scene when Amanda was 11 and he just kept on and on, whereas I think it’s much more likely (if it ever happened at all) that Aydin was just your average Daily Capper type.

Anyways, we’ll see what happens. I have repeated earlier info below.

BTW – if they keep to the original schedule all this will take some time.

Latest: still quite confusing. Mentions using clips of a porn actress (Lily Luck) to lure men; 1.5 kilos of drugs in his house; a huge amount of stuff on his hard drive; contacted 70 girls in 5 minutes on Habbo Hotel (!!!!!); active from 2008. Difficult to know how much is for real.

What makes it all the more surreal is the contradictory Todd story that doesn’t match the events, because we know that Amanda wasn’t enticed online, she thought the BlogTV event was no big deal, she wasn’t on her own in at least one of her appearances, and she was online with ‘new material’ in early 2011. All that has been doubly and trebly verified by me, Norm and the RCMP. Amanda was called an online ‘celebrity’ by her fans – you don’t get that for a one-off webcam flash. The Press have done a lot to hide all this – there’s not one example of her cheerleader escapade with the other person. At some point this will be shown, at a big risk to the Todd myth, but that won’t happen until the extradition.

Message for Carol Todd: seriously step back and think. Once this case gets to Canada, everything will come out in public. Do you really want that to happen or do you still want fame so much that you’ll let your daughter’s tragedy continue? Just for once be honest – if not with the public, then at least with yourself.

Anyone recognise any of these names? They are all meant to be Aydin Coban. It’s not a complete list.

JennyCohen@hushmail.com

MarcCamerons@hushmail.com, marccameronssss@yahoo.com

b2705816@nwldx.com

ffttgg4@gmail.com

tylerc4@myopera.com

codymorrish@hotmail.com

kelseyrain1, kelseyrain2, kelseyrain3, kelseyrain4, kelseyrain5 – all @yahoo.com

maryyram85@live.com

katiecollinsusa, shaecollins, austincollins – all @yahoo.com

uzunin8@gmail.com

kody1206@live.com

darrenmiles96@yahoo.com

arianapenas@yahoo.com

jaydehgermanuh@yahoo.com

fairywer4@yahoo.com

stuntest34@yahoo.com

galage3@yahoo.com

hesrt44@yahoo.com

mastbast1@yahoo.com

brightonsbest1@yahoo.com

xxmycrowsoftxx@yahoo.com

theInternet70@live.com

calimestor@yahoo.com

ex5rc6fmon@yahoo.com

lionmionzion@hotmail.com

torlimdaaylim@outlook.com

mirahalcannister@outlook.com

teleportingsallylala@outlook.com

bestfamilyinbrighton@yahoo.com

thebrightsunis1@outlook.com

Dylan Polo

Austin Collins

Marc Camer

Tomas Coco Pops

Sietse Goossens

Sidnuh Merclans

Kelseeh Rayn

Jaydeh Germanuh

Brandns Fathr, Brandoons Father, Brandon Tay, brandonmylife

Kyle Hymen Norito

Lars Merckin

Kody Maxson

Martin Canton

Kaitlin Frye

Zainah1

mel.raine.1

miranda.todd.39

deanniha

Marcelinda McTomas

Olive Kubi

Mirandela Sintaford

Terliyam Hefter

Linda Aylim

Tedyubak Matkela

Secretdavee, Davey Sucret

Cody Cena

Pena Arianna, Arianna Pena Patterson

Mary Clifford

k000dy, k0dddy2

Ashley Canterr

Jordan Stolar

Megan McBrown

Gemmaduck Mackieearphones, Duckami Mahckie, Marc Mackieroni Gemmaro (Gemma Mackie = victim, I think)

And that’s not the entire list, but it will do for now. So…..any clues? Any recognition?

Apart from a couple, none of these register anywhere.

 

The blog that never dies

Oh well. It looks like this blog may get a slight new lease of life this month as the trial of Aydin Coban starts on January 25th.

Carol Todd will be there, but she might miss all the action, which is weird. The trial is set for a length of eight days and Carol is going over in the first week of February. She’s raised quite a bit of money on her crowdfunding which I must admit I was surprised by. She must have more fans than I thought. Still, it’s not without at least one criticiser who objects to paying for Carol’s other half. One has to ask where Norm is, though. It’s like he never existed.

As usual, I always doubt Carol Todd’s motives. She’s always ready to hijack every possible moment to make it all about Amanda and I wonder sometimes if the parents of other victims are sick and tired of it as they don’t want their own children to be seen as being in the same league as our dear Cutieelover.

It’s strange that Aydin Coban has already been pre-judged by everyone, even when it is highly unlikely that he has anything to do with Amanda. The trial doesn’t feature her, and it’s a really big stretch to bring him in to the history. So far, Carol has managed to avoid any real questions from the media, but as time goes on there’s much more of a risk that someone may at least raise the BlogTV incidents. I believe that Carol is so blinded by the myth that she thinks that nobody will ever dig a bit deeper. That would explain why she doesn’t seem worried by the extradition, but she should know that a court case won’t be like an interview with the Vancouver Sun – it will look into every detail and rake up a huge amount of stuff that may not look good.

If Aydin is released (which is a possibility) extradition might be tough. I’m not sure that the Dutch officials will find someone innocent or deem that they have been in prison long enough already then just hand him over to what is essentially a lynch mob. But I have a feeling that if he’s not released and is found guilty of various crimes then the RCMP and others may say that’s enough. It would be hugely convenient to accept a guilty verdict in Holland, and then just close the case with an assumption that he was involved with Amanda. I’m also guessing that the Canadians would accept that. They would dismiss the Dutch as being too lenient, say it’s all a terrible miscarriage of justice, rave and rage for a few weeks and then move on. Seriously, it would be better to go that way than to bring out all the details in a Canadian court.

I might restructure this blog. To be honest, I’m a bit too lazy to bother but I expect that viewing figures will rise at the end of the month. For me, it depends on whether or not the trial gets much publicity.

So we’ll see. This could be the biggest anticlimax ever. In a way I sort of hope that Aydin will confess to being the killer predator villain that everyone wants him to be. At least that would be an end to it. Yet something tells me this won’t happen, and the story will drag on and on and on………

 

Amanda Todd wasn’t on her own

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As the Coban trial continues, it gets more shocking. Apparently he had 204,000 porn pics on his hard drive, he was in trouble with the Grijze Wolven. As most of it is in Dutch it’s a pain to work out the details. Add in the thing about 7 gay Australians and it starts getting too weird.

Meanwhile I’ve reissued these pics from the catalogue. The clip is actually far worse than this can show and makes the BlogTV episode look mild. It’s really this clip that puzzles me most as it’s so far away from the ‘it was a brief flash’ storyline and involves another kid who was very much part of Amanda’s scene but never gets a mention.

Because of this clip, Amanda’s BlogTV shows and so on, it’s tough to match the current narrative of one action followed by years of torment.

Just in case anyone thinks this isn’t Amanda, then OK, you’re entitled to that. Just ask Carol Todd though – she’ll remember that Amanda had a pair of trousers (or ‘pants’ as they are called in the USA) with ‘CHEER’ written on the bottom. And she’ll recognise the soft toy. And Amanda’s old bedrooom.

It looks as if there are a few latecomers to the blog, so rather tediously I have to re-visit old news.

 

 

 

Hello – is Aydin here? Nope? But r0ra is in the room

 dylanpolo

It’s been a busy weekend, and to be honest I’m getting very confused. Just who is Aydin? Where is he?!

Is he in the cutiielover chatlogs? Although these have been already published earlier in the blog, the names were redacted for certain reasons, so here are all the names in full. For newcomers who might be blissfully unaware, cutiielover is Amanda Todd.

BlogTV Conversation Log. Server Date: 12/5/2010 8:32:15 PM, Client Date: Sun Dec 5 19:26:25 GMT-0600 2010, Room: cutiielover Live, Checksum: 1314457

Welcome to blogTV’s chat:
– No nudity / sex / copyrighted materials
– NEW chat commands: /[COMMAND] [USERNAME] /KICK /BAN /OP /SEARCH /UNBAN /DEOP
– Follow us on twitter: http://www.twitter.com/blogtv
– You must abide by the blogTv_Terms_of_use
– Need help? Read the blogTV Tips_&_tricks
Have fun!
pkyboy1: sexy
cutiielover: im not like that anymore.
boxfrog: sigh
crazeboy123: what were u like
cutiielover: a slut
crazeboy123: oh
spitoswallow:
kontiky: lol… i kinda like sluts
crazeboy123: wwhat made u change may I ask
kontiky: idk why
You have entered the cutiielover Live
show by cutiielover. cutiielover(14) is from Canada .Dundundunlol: she is a slut she still is 1
cutiielover: all my friends found my pic
spitoswallow: REGLION MADE HER CHANGE
Dundundunlol: she bated on cam to ppl
cutiielover: and sent my boobs out to everyone in my city.
Dundundunlol: other nite
kontiky: maybe because im a guy…
Dundundunlol: slut
ZapsThosePests: Hey Cutie, whats up?
crazeboy123: oh daaamn
Dundundunlol: still a slut
jakethai: are they still ur friend
cutiielover: no
jake9898: just because u like sex or mess around doesnt make u a slut… but yea… just gotta be careful who u trust
cutiielover: iim moving out of the counrty now.
jake9898: come to america!!!
kontiky: lol…no
crazeboy123: well you are super hot

BlogTV Conversation Log. Server Date: 12/18/2010 2:50:59 AM, Client Date: Sat Dec 18 01:44:58 GMT-0600 2010, Room: cutiielover Live, Checksum: 2209434

XoXLo0znMyFawknMindXoX: tell
jason1996c: nope
RyanJanns: no u arent flat
MrPickleHead: we have the hottest girls here in canada
youneek: you are smexy, be serious?
abstractingthereal: flat? i don’t think so
steve16ca: TINY SUCKS NOW
milksnake: that looks nice 😉
vspec: can’t tell with shirt on
vyruz: nice boobs
AmuroLite: by the time you hit 300, you’ll have a waiting room. usually being a tease helps though.
steve16ca: USTREAM IS BETTER
xxFxxAxxQxxUxx: so lets see something real sexy<<<<<
jason1996c: what size bra do u wear
SkylerX: with that shirt its hard to tell but i don’t think falt
XoXLo0znMyFawknMindXoX: 32b?
SkylerX: flat*
Carp3tMunch3r: put on something really esxay and tease us please
ZapsThosePests: next to the disk symbol is a another sysmbol you can use to switch rooms
cum-again:
XoXLo0znMyFawknMindXoX: i was close
XoXLo0znMyFawknMindXoX: lol
SkylerX: C is nice
XoXLo0znMyFawknMindXoX: -blames it on the dark shirt
jason1996c: C is perfect
abstractingthereal: 31g
steve16ca: only ops can switch rooms?
leftrightleft: i remember you coming in and just telling people to make you a tiny xD
youneek: 32 C is not small at all
jason1996c: nice
SkylerX: they match your undies
Carp3tMunch3r: lol
abstractingthereal: out of focus
scarlet_soul: can we see spome more of your cut eunderwear?
Carp3tMunch3r: shirt with no bra under?
cum-again: NEED OVER 150 CHATTERS 2 GET A WAITN ROOM
scarlet_soul: *cute
Carp3tMunch3r: thats wuld be hot too
SkylerX: 11 more for waiting room
ZapsThosePests: 12 more then a waiting rom
cum-again: YA
RyanJanns: yeah
Redirtroad: yea
milksnake: sure
ZapsThosePests: ALWAYS
milksnake: 😀
scarlet_soul: yea
SkylerX: k, give us the link
KevinG95:
steve16ca: what will she do???
jason1996c: ok
MrPickleHead: hell yeah
miomio77:
abstractingthereal: haha
youneek: then you wiil get a waiting room for sure
Shocked: yes!
abstractingthereal: www.
ZapsThosePests: but I am already subscribed
XoXLo0znMyFawknMindXoX: ^^ put it in your title
cutiielover: http://www.youtube.com/isabella100555

BlogTV Conversation Log. Server Date: 12/18/2010 3:06:54 AM, Client Date: Sat Dec 18 02:00:46 GMT-0600 2010, Room: cutiielover Live, Checksum: 2336076

cristian007: mod in the room
cum-again: FLAGGED 4 PILLOW
cum-again: LOL
cum-again:
savine2:
scarlet_soul: we should check your hot ass :p
cum-again:
leftrightleft: are you going to show again when he/she gets on?
XoXLo0znMyFawknMindXoX: how is 151 chatters possible i thought it was 150 max
jesse95: means mod is in the room
cum-again: MOD
Carp3tMunch3r: u could pull down the front of your PJs as far down as you dare JUST done show any bush
KevinG95: she is shaved
youneek: whenever it’s 149, or 150, a “hidden” mod is in the room
youneek: 151*
Carp3tMunch3r: o my mistake, im used to working with carpet
XoXLo0znMyFawknMindXoX: how bout 151 tho
AmuroLite: prove it!
SkylerX: yeah blogtv mods are nazis
cum-again: IVE SEEN 152
leftrightleft: prove shaved
cristian007: show you shaved
Carp3tMunch3r: how far down can u pull your PJs???
ZapsThosePests: 151 or more confuses me
greentree2: blocked
KevinG95: would you pull down as far as you dare ?
Smiling_Buddha: 151 is possible wen an op or the b-caster goes into waiting room and returns
youneek: yah, 152 is two mods in room
cum-again: DON GET BANNED
youneek: you’re not shaved
leftrightleft: she has a bush
vyruz: show
drake4ever: need to rub and put mic next to hear
krazy_monkey: lower the cam a bit
AmuroLite: prove it, prove it.
scarlet_soul: there’s an ausi girl stripping on another channel lol
Carp3tMunch3r: 153 means all the mods r there cuz its superfriggin HOT
badboy-15: shes just sitting there
scarlet_soul: no mods
cum-again: DONT SHOW ANYTHING
realbadboy: lets go to tinychat
cum-again:
drake4ever: no noise means shaved
jesse95: link?
SkylerX: i have a room you can use don’t get banned
scarlet_soul: they got 600 viewers
ZapsThosePests: let the stripper get banned
jesse95: dont you love it when guys say there’s a girl strippin and they dont link the f’n room
XoXLo0znMyFawknMindXoX: he had a boner
jakeskater: who?
XoXLo0znMyFawknMindXoX: lol
cristian007: show your shaved?????
youneek: not linking room is smart
youneek: more viewers = more chance of ban
badboy-15: ur going to make me blush aren’t u
cum-again: WHO GOT 600? LINK
scarlet_soul: that other girl has awesome tits :p
ZapsThosePests: haha, the one you told us about!!!
Carp3tMunch3r: i had a boner earlier
XoXLo0znMyFawknMindXoX: hayy dont be ashamed… it happens
Recognise any of the names? I’m told that cum-again is our old friend r0ra who keeps commenting nonsense on the blog, and ZapsThosePests is featured in the Daily Capper news.
But as if that’s not enough, some other kind person has supplied information regarding Dylan Polo (who is meant to be Aydin Coban and is found on Facebook as Dylan.Polo.98).
*His Name Is Polo, Also Known As Dylan Mess
*Said He Lives In Europe, In The Netherlands
*His Old Skype Was Intothedylan, And Another One Is Dylanmess1
*His Original Site Was Tinychat.com/Alphakennybuddy, And It Appears That He Reused That Name For One Of The Rooms On His New Site
*His Dad Owns Some Kind Of Hotel Company, So He’s Filthy Rich
*Has Been Said To Use 2 VPNS, And Uses Proxies
*The Site Name Starts With An O, Q, A Or C, Then It’s 4 Letters And Most Likely Ends With Chat
*It’s Europe Based And He Advertises On Some European Social Network Like FB
*He Uses Flashcoms Software For The Chat And Cams
*Has 500-700 People Spread Over Several Rooms At It’s Peak
*Users Can Make Their Own Rooms
*The Site Is Purple Green And White All Over
*There Have Been A Few Threads On 4chan’s /Soc/ And http://www.anonib.com About It With People Trying To Find The Site.
*He Most Likely Made It In November Of 2012
*These Are Screenshots Of The Site http://imgur.com/a/QnVJm

*If You Search “Polo” On http://www.anonib.com/ That Is Where I Found Most Of The Info.

Hmmm….there’s a lot happening. I had a panic attack when I couldn’t log on this morning, and my paranoia setting is high.
Over to you, r0ra – and please make a sensible comment for a change.

Aydin Coban, Amanda Todd – who’s the bigger villain?

More weird shit off YouTube.

So what’s the topic for today? ‘Was Amanda Todd a clever liar or just off her rocker?’. Discuss. Or ‘How much of the Amanda Todd story is true?’.

It really would have helped if somebody could at least have tried to tell the truth right from the start. Now, we have a story that has become so complex that any vestige of reality left the room ages ago.

Is it possible to describe what has happened without writing 700 pages of explanatory text? I can have a go.

From what we can deduce, Amanda Todd was pretty much crazy. Words like ‘learning difficulties’ have been used. People don’t like to admit that kids can be psychotic, manipulative, deceitful, so maybe I’ll just use the word ‘disturbed’.

So..Amanda Todd – a disturbed child – goes online at any date from 2007 onwards. She becomes addicted to the attention. She’s not – as far as we know – very nice online, building up quite a lot of enmity from the start. Arrogance is probably a good word to throw in here.

At some point, she starts flashing and this is where the whole mess kicks off. She says it was when she was 11 years old (2007-2008). Her video says she was in 7th Grade (2008-2009). All the known evidence points to dates much closer to late 2009 (her 13th birthday, when she could have joined BlogTV Juniors) and the real events are much closer to December 2010, when the cops arrive.

From December 2010 there are ups and downs that don’t fit together well.

The cops arrive on December 24th, 2010, and major ructions occur. Except not for Amanda, who shrugs her shoulders and calls it all ‘No Big Deal’. She supposedly refers to blackmail at this point, but again we face discrepancies. Three weeks later, terrified and blackmailed Amanda is on UStream broadcasting to all and sundry again and complaining that there are moderators.

From December 2010 onwards Amanda is known by, and involved with, what is loosely described as the Capper Community. Not only that, but every kid in Vancouver and beyond knows what she gets up to behind closed doors, as her nickname ‘Glowsticks’ shows so clearly.

So we know she’s in trouble post-2010, but Amanda – being ‘disturbed’ – carries on…how can we put it?…misbehaving. She gets more online trouble around May 2011 from the person known as Miranda Todd. She claims a stalker is out to kill her, which is her making it all into a drama, but her Internet access is wildly cut at this point – everything of hers including YouTube, Facebook and twitter is destroyed.

And then it’s all over? Not quite. The Internet addiction comes back and within days the terrified and blackmailed Amanda is back online re-building all her old connections, and still….ermmm….misbehaving.

As she is still online and misbehaving, she’s open to more trouble, which seems to peak around October/November 2011, when she is told off by the RCMP in the famous ‘there’s only so much we can do’ email, members of the public send reports to cybertip, and she is approached (allegedly) by Tyler Boo and Austin Collins (allegedly both Aydin Coban).

(It’s also at this time that Amanda asks to return to live with her mother, Carol, who refuses to have her).

The online trail vanishes after November 2011, but her story gets far worse. By this time, the disturbed child has now become pretty much a broken child beyond repair, but unfortunately she gets into even more trouble in the real world. If she’s at CABE by now (dates I’m not sure about) then she really is in trouble. CABE is a school that is essentially a holding-pen for all of Vancouver’s most damaged children. Not a safe place for Amanda.

We get Renan Tarras; we get Value Village; we get the fight in the playground; we get drink, drugs, the whole palaver.

Then fast forward to that video in September, 2012. The one that really puts the kibosh on any attempt to get to the truth.

What happens after October, 2012?

That’s when it all starts getting into a mess. The story is a journalistic wet dream. Cute girl, innocence, debauchery, online porn, predators, paedophiles, suicide and tits. The perfect recipe for online mayhem.

And the truth goes out the window.

People fall for the ‘one picture’ tale and the grooming by a pretend teenager in an intimate web encounter. And why shouldn’t they? It’s what the Press says, it’s what Amanda says, it’s what Carol Todd says. It’s what people want to hear.

It takes weeks and months for all the rumours to come out. It’s not really until the 5th Estate documentary that people finally have to come to terms with the likes of BlogTV and that Amanda was performing for hundreds of viewers.

However, Amanda Todd has reached a strange post-mortem Sainthood. A disturbed, mentally ill girl’s story has become an established legend of perfect innocence led astray by Evil (which has to be a man).

So the story drifts along for a while until all of a sudden we have AYDIN COBAN. The Devil Incarnate, Lucifer, Beelzebub, Aydin Coban. What a gift for even more bad journalism.

So what happens next?

Out of nothing, Coban suddenly becomes the World’s Biggest Predator. And to top it all he is Amanda Todd’s stalker. Not just Tyler Boo. Not just Austin Collins. Nope. Just about every predator on the planet, and the guy who – way back in history – first got Amanda Todd to show her tits. His charge list is stupendous.

Can this be right? Can it be slightly right? Totally right?

To be honest, my research (and everyone knows by now I research to the nth degree) can come up with nothing but speculation, albeit speculation based on information and knowledge.

What does the evidence look like? Well, at first it looks convincing. We’re led to believe that this one predator operated out of Holland and that there are definite connections to a few kids all over the world. We know of Julia Batterman from Old Tappan for sure. We know (well, we do now) of Gemma Mackie from Kilmarnock in Scotland. Then there’s the dodgy Kaitlyn, Shannon from Florida, Linda from God knows where, Roos from Kongsberg, Norway, maybe even Becky Haskins. Then, as Marc Burrows, we can suspect that he was after somebody from Stamford, Connecticut.

The entire Facebook list provides a complete profile of blackmailer behaviour and bloody Hell whoever it is looks persistent. Marc Burrows has obviously tried to scam someone down in Stamford. It’s a pretty good trick – set yourself up as someone going to the local school, get a bunch of people as friends, then blast out whatever it is you want. Marcc4 (Julia Batterman’s blackmailer) has gone down the line of straightforward threat. Kaitlyn’s story is a bit bizarre, going down that road of odd abuser/victim relationship. (I won’t even try to explain the abuser/victim idiocy that goes on, except that many of these girls can be their own worst enemies).

It’s absolutely cut and dried. Or is it?

You’ve guessed it. Of course it isn’t cut and dried.

This is what it suspiciously looks like. It looks like Facebook have floundered, but I can’t work it out for certain.

First things first. Whoever compiled the Facebook file has allowed themselves to be carried away, and this is where the stupid Amanda Todd Nonsense Factor destroys everything. Basically, people are so taken in by the myth that they are prepared to believe anything, to the detriment of fact-finding. They are also over-keen to believe that Amanda was conned into performing by an evil predator. Therefore, all sense was put to one side.

The Facebook investigation team had seen Amanda’s announcement in November 2011, in which she stated that she had been tricked when she was eleven. She also stated that the person who she first encountered way back in 2007/2008 was Tyler Boo and Austin Collins. Instead of trying to verify this, they assumed she was telling the truth. They couldn’t find a link, but her word was enough, so they added EVERY one of Amanda’s contacts for good measure. That’s why the list of identities is so long and diverse.

So where are we at?

We have a Facebook investigation that is tainted by belief rather than fact. That spoils the whole picture. Whereas we might have believed that Aydin Coban is Tyler Boo, we might even have believed that Aydin Coban is Austin Collins, we can’t stretch the imagination to include Alice McAllister and Kody Maxson. All based on Amanda’s dumbass Facebook status update.

What makes it even worse is that the link to Tyler Boo is even weaker. In the Facebook report, the best that they can come up with is that the Tyler Boo messages were similar to other messages allegedly emanating from Aydin. No definite link, no ip link, no certainty, just the completely circumstantial evidence.

Any more peculiarities? Blimey, it’s almost endless. The fact that Amanda Todd is not mentioned in the charges (it’s all down to yet another crazy decision because one of the victims is Canadian); the fact that Aydin was allowed to publish his ‘I’m innocent’ letter from prison; the fact that all the FACTUAL evidence was gathered from late 2013; the fact that Aydin Coban extorted for money; and so on and so forth.

So where does that leave us? In the middle of Nowhere in NowhereLand, that’s where. If Aydin Coban is everything he’s accused of, then it’s a fantastic story indeed. Without any lawyer, he’s at extreme risk of a biased judgment against him. When it comes to cases like this, prejudices can come dangerously to the fore.

I have to admit that I’ve a sneaking suspicion that he’s partially guilty. There’s every possibility that he’s a dumbass blackmailer, simply because although it seems complex, it isn’t really. Setting up identities online takes five minutes, there are hardly any checks or controls, so the fact Aydin has so many aliases isn’t a big shock. The girls hand out their personal information quite easily, so tracking them down is no big deal. Anyone could go online tonight, find some teenchat hellhole and claim a victim.

However, as soon as I say ‘partially guilty’ I have my doubts. The range of his activities is too wide,and the holes in the Press coverage are too large.

Anyways. Hopefully, we’ll get somewhere next week.

Tomorrow I’ll give a pictorial timeline of Amanda’s history, so we will see that things are not quite as clear as people think.

Meanwhile, I’m cutting things fine. I have asked the Batterman family to comment and I would lay a bet that they might get in touch with the cops. I know that various people watch this blog and every time something contentious happens complaints are sent far and wide. Not that I’m fussed – I find it all a bit of an adventure.

Laters.

 

 

Amanda Todd – One step closer to the truth.

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Sorry about the jpg. Just click on it.

As soon as one thing seems to get resolved, something else crops up that turns a lot of the story upside down again. There is a lot of grief in this – not just for the main participants, but for those other, more innocent victims of the witch hunts, the hatred, the suspicions. And for all those people from all across the world, all those genuine people, all those kids who have cried about this, it’s a terrible shame.

We have – and it saddens me to say this – been severely tricked.  I thought that  I would be jumping for joy as I learned that more and more of what I was saying was coming true, but instead I’m simply becoming more disheartened.

The details I have posted today are true. I will seek to evaluate them as clinically and as precisely as I possibly can. At first, I was just tempted to post the screen cap and leave it up to readers to make up their own minds. But, as usual, I will try to analyse what is behind all of this.

As you will see, the capture is from December 5th, 2010. That’s ten days after ‘cutieelover’ aka Amanda Todd joined BlogTV. What she did, or where she was prior to that, I don’t know at the moment. This is eighteen days before the police arrived on her doorstep on December 23rd.

Note that the BlogTV rules are absolutely clear. I have criticised BlogTV (now YouNow) for allowing things, but to give them credit, they were quite clear about the rules, and very quick to ban people who broke them. There is no real excuse for not knowing that nudity was frowned upon. As we know, cutiielover was banned twelve days later.

Amanda is quite well-known. It is possible that, from the commencement of her membership of BlogTV on November 26th, she could have received quite a following – reputations grow fast online.

Note: this may not be the full online conversation for December 5th. I originally thought that this might be the beginning of it all, but it is possible that there were earlier comments.

The first comment available is a cordial ‘sexy’. The second comment from cutieelover is – well, what? – poignant? Could that be the word? I don’t know. Or it could just be straightforward. Who can tell?

‘im not like that anymore’

What can anyone read into this? It sounds quite forlorn, like she’s realised something, and has decided to stop. On it’s own, it sounds like it’s a finality, but, sadly, we know that just a few days later she was flashing again, and that this behaviour continued on for quite some time. Can we deduce any period of time from this? Like I said – and I hope – her reputation might have simply grown in the previous two weeks, but I retain a slight idea that these are the words of someone who has been quite known for some time. But that is irrelevant, really.

It looks like one of her fans issues a ‘sigh’ of disappointment. Or of shared sadness?

I guess that the next comment is from someone new to the room: ‘what were u like’.  The answer is horrible.

‘a slut’

What in God’s name would make a girl say this? Here are some attempts to explain, but first let me say that it is significant and important. It points strongly towards why so many people used the word ‘slut’ to describe her – it’s the term she has applied to herself. It is actually Amanda herself who first uses the term to describe her own behaviour. People would have read these comments, and no doubt her friends would have heard her say it.

There are two reasons why she should have said this. The first is quite a cold-hearted suggestion; the second is gut-wrenchingly sad. I would prefer to choose the first. It kills me more to choose the second.

The first reason: Amanda is relatively proud of being seen as a slut. It’s a sort of show-off, attention-seeking phrase – ‘Look at me! I’m a slut! I’m not a mundane nobody, I’m someone who boys queue up to see! I’m the centre of attention, and that makes me feel important!’

Look at the news. We live in a society where sluttish behaviour makes you rich and famous. You know the names, I have no need to make a list. Reality TV praises the slut, denigrates the nice people. Look at the magazines aimed at later teens, read by 12-year-olds. In the UK, it’s ‘Nuts’ and ‘Zoo’. And those idiotic cretins who invented ‘slut walks’ – be proud that you look like a slut! Have they ANY idea what they are doing? (OK, reader, I’ll get down off my soap box)

Like so many words these days, slut has lost its meaning. It’s tossed around school playgrounds as easily as the old words like ‘fatty’ and ‘foureyes’. There is a distinct possibility that Amanda uses the term ‘slut’ as a badge of distinction.

The second reason: (this is appallingly sad) Amanda might have had such low self-esteem that she had become used to calling herself a slut. Why she would do this, I don’t know. From family background, I would guess the origin lay elsewhere. There are plenty of vile parents who will destroy their kids’ self-worth, but I don’t see that here. If anything, it might have been the opposite from her parents – they might have built her ego up to massive  proportions.

So why would she tag herself a slut? Did she go online, get naked, expect to get praise but get called a slut? Did she find that the only way to get the BlogTV viewers interested was to behave like a slut? It is extraordinary how dependent kids are on online feedback, and we know that Amanda was addicted to it.

Another, less probable but viable view is this: we know that Amanda possibly suffered from learning difficulties. She may well have had a huge sense that she was, in some way, a disappointment and failure. She had tried desperately to publicise herself online and elsewhere – singing, cheerleading – but it looks like the only thing she, as a person, felt that she truly excelled at, and that got her the attention, was to be a slut.

I must move on. The newbie answers a plaintive and shocked ‘oh’. Someone posts a picture.

‘lol….i kinda like sluts’ – seen as positive feedback?

The newbie asks her what made her change her mind.

‘idk why’ is Kon*** basically answering his own statement two lines above.

Another person enters the room.

Dun*** writes: ‘she is a slut she still is 1’. How is that meant? How is that taken? A joke? An insult? Horrifyingly aggressive male words? Or teen nonsense?

And then we have it:

‘all my friends found my pic’

Not ‘I’ve been stalked’. Not ‘I’ve been blackmailed’. All her friends found her pic. To me, this proves that the blackmail case is now closed. She said this to cover herself. There WAS a lot of stuff going on a la Peyton Ramsey, and it’s all very convoluted. But you can strike ‘blackmail’ and ‘stalker’ from the notebook for now.

I will leave it there for now. Tomorrow, there will be more about what really happened. It might take me time.

So – return to this blog – same Philip time, same Philip channel (that’s old skool Batman, just in case no-one knew).

 

 

 

 

 

Amanda’s last appearance as cutiielover

cutiielover

Today’s post is the one which has caused me most problems, and the most consternation. Will it cause major trouble, or will it just become yet another piece of Amanda Todd flotsam, floating on the sea of information surrounding the case? Does anyone really care any more?

I have to stop thinking and just get on with it. I had no idea how to approach this. For me, it is quite a key moment, as this photo initiates, probably, a much deeper investigation. As regular readers know, I have, at times, been lost in the forest – wandering off along cul-de-sacs, getting lost, turning back along paths I’ve already trodden more than once. But occasionally I have come upon glades of clarity – certain information shining light on many of the problems.

An honest and trustworthy source sent me this photo, and I will explain what it shows, just in case anyone wonders.

This is the last appearance of Amanda Todd as cutiielover. At almost exactly the same time as Amanda flashed, she was reported, hence the ‘Inappropriate content’ box in the middle. However, those of you following the story will know that Amanda went to great lengths to return as ‘Announcing Amanda’ very soon afterwards.

Note that she had 191 viewers at the time. This is significant. In Amanda’s video, we are led to believe that the ‘photo’ was perhaps the result of quite an intimate one-to-one webcam chat with a trusted friend. This, of course, shows that to be completely untrue. Amanda was aware that she had 191 viewers – it would have been obvious to her, as she would have seen this exact same screen in front of her. So, to a certain extent, it could have been any one of these 191 viewers who passed her video clip to a porn site. Or it could have been any other person on the planet – this video clip could have been sent around from 191 viewers, through various chatroom sites, to phones and laptops everywhere, before ending up where it did. Remember – Amanda was seen as a celebrity in the Capper world.

However, it is likely that the person who spread the video around was in the room at the time. You will see that names have been covered up. It is highly likely that those names are known. There is even a chance that those names might actually see this and know that they have been found out. The names have been blacked out for the time being, and I am not telling you who they are. However, I think I can safely tell you that Kody Maxson is nowhere near this – if people persist in believing that drivel, then so be it, but it is totally wrong. The story that Kody Maxson coerced/enticed/flattered Amanda into flashing is THE most ridiculous part of this case. It has let a lot of people off the hook. At a later point in the blog, I will investigate this further.

You will also see a few comments – like ‘JUST DO IT’. We can imagine the scene. Amanda has appeared. She is well-known and, as far as we know, relatively new to the BlogTV set up. Already, 191 viewers have crowded into the room. Some of them will be heros, some of them blackmailers, some of them will simply be there for the fun of it. Amanda flirts with her audience. Now, at the moment, I have to state things that are mostly rumour for the time being.

It is rumoured that this Amanda appearance was a two-way thing, in that she played to the audience, and was fully aware of the game she was playing. But, without concrete evidence of that, I will only continue with a kinder version.

So – Amanda is in a room with 191 viewers, most of them being a mixture of stupid kids, rabid Cappers, maybe a few perverts. They egg her on – ‘JUST DO IT’ and so on. And she does it. People have seen the entire scene at cameracaptures. She laughs. It’s just a game.

Surely, people can see that this is light years away from the story we are meant to believe. The media would have you think that, at minimum, everything was the equivalent of a one-off Snapchat type of sexting photo. It was what Amanda wanted us to believe. The media does allow a certain leeway. Somewhere in the middle ground, the media would like it to be a story of one small video, maybe one or two, that were created by a naive, innocent young girl who was tricked, cajoled, coerced by some Devil figure. And, of course, a few of the online news breakers have actually shown more details about Amanda’s BlogTV escapades and more, but the general public doesn’t really want to think about all that.

But what this shows is that, on December 17th 2010, Amanda was a willing participant in what was, essentially, an online piece of tomfoolery. I won’t go on too much here, but later in the blog I will describe what I believe actually happened around this time in more detail.

Now look at more detail in the photo. Amanda clearly admits to being 14. I have to admit to being wrong in the past. I had assumed that Amanda might have lied about her age, as she did in so many other places, but here it is clear that she didn’t. That, obviously, means that people should have been aware that she was a minor, and morality should have dictated that people responded accordingly. Some people – in fact, a lot of people – did, hence the reporting and the ban from BlogTV. But for the rest, remember that the BlogTV situation is feral. There is no concept of decency for them.

But here we enter into a dichotomy. At one extreme, the authorities and fervent – how shall I put it? – uninformed people have cried ‘child pornography’. Yet within the melee of nonsense surrounding the case, more people have stated that flashing is, really, an innocent pastime undertaken by naive young girls. So what do we believe here?

Here’s how I put it. The vast majority of people think that child pornography is just that – a level of sexual content in pictures involving children that can be seen as disturbing and evil. It conjures up all our worst nightmares. But flashing is seen just as a harmless activity which, in 99% of cases, it is. The thousands of kids swapping flashing pictures don’t see it as child pornography. It’s become almost a part of growing up. Of Amanda’s audience, many would have seen all of this as just a laugh, all part of the game. The fact that Amanda was 14 was irrelevant – some of the spectators would have been in the same age group. Only a few would have seen the dangers for Amanda, and only a few, if any, would fulfill the criteria of being a pedophile, old-man pervert predator. I will go into more detail later in the blog.

The details show that Amanda is from Canada. It wouldn’t have been difficult to trace her. As we know, her online presence was huge. We can also see the dates of Amanda’s entry into the BlogTV world – November 26th, 2010. Now, surely, this completely destroys the myth that Amanda was 12 and in 7th grade. That is simply not true, but has become part of the mythology. I think I can confidently state that she was 14, at the tail end of being 13, when all this began. The December 18th date is false. That is the date in a different time zone. This all happened on December 17th, Canada time. Shockingly close to the police raid of December 23rd.

Now, what is more interesting is that you can see the half-covered stills from two other archived videos of Amanda – entitled ‘ill be’ and ‘bored’. What does this tell us? It tells us that Amanda’s appearances were archived. She would have not known, perhaps, that she was being capped (I find it hard to believe) but she would have been totally aware that her videos were archived. This complicates matters. Any person could have returned to Amanda’s profile at any point and seen the archives. I don’t know what happened after the ban – I asume that her records were erased. But it shows just how public Amanda was.

Now, this photo really puts the cat amongst the pigeons, and I will have to think hard and dig deeper to work out what happened.

Here is an assumption that I need to clarify: I now assume that this appearance was the one that kicked off all the fuss. We have an absolutely certain date – December 17th, 2010. I assume that this appearance was the one that was passed around her school. I have no data concerning the flash episode where she has her friend with her, but I think it’s obvious that it is around he same time.

So where does this put the blackmailing story? According to Amanda, she flashed once, and it was a year later that the stalker turned up. That is now, clearly, utter nonsense. After December 17th 2010, things must have moved rapidly. It doesn’t make sense. Did a ‘blackmailer’ get his act together almost instantaneously? It’s possible. Within seconds of Amanda’s flash, the picture could have been anywhere, and we all know how quickly things spread. But still, according to reports, Amanda also had time to be banned and then re-appear as ‘Announcing Amanda’, so that would have added a day or two to things. And then the cops arrived on December 23rd.

Amanda’s lies cloud the issue. I hate speculation, but I must admit my gut feelings have, in the past, been very close to the reality of the situation. My gut feeling is that Amanda got caught out about her flashing, and simply panicked and said she was blackmailed.

What I find more confusing is why she continued, and things got worse. This post has gone on a bit too long, and I need to think and find out more details.

Thank you to my source for giving me this information. For my two readers, I hope this wasn’t too much of an anti-climax. I will now revisit the Amanda story – it seems like it’s the millionth time I’ve done so. And by the way – you won’t find any of this online, so there’s no point looking.

I look forward to receiving any comments and any more information that anyone out there can provide. This post hasn’t covered many things today. More will be clarified in later posts.

Please go on to this link for the next instalment:

https://philipjrose.wordpress.com/2013/04/26/the-story-takes-yet-another-bizarre-twist/

 

 

 

 

 

Aydin Coban is innocent

curious

I was caught out. I expected the court case to continue tomorrow, not yesterday.

As I haven’t had time to check it all out – there were a ton of tweets – it does seem intriguing, but I can only give brief details for now.

We still have the mysterious Murat. Coban still says the incriminating hard drive belongs to Murat.

One of the main sets of identities – Kelsey  – isn’t to be found on the computer.

Some of the IP addresses can’t be linked.

The surveillance gadgets were faulty, leading to stuff that was out of context.

More odd is that some of the online conversations took place when Aydin was in clink. That could be a game changer.

The connections were supplied by Facebook. From the Amanda Todd list, it looks like they might have been lazy and just listed every single contact Amanda had as being from Coban.

I’ll try to get more detail soon.

Carol Todd mentioned me. Well, she said I was a blogger from the UK. She also issued an invitation to meet her in Amsterdam.

Just for info – people in huge countries like the USA or Canada treat driving 100 miles to the shops as no big deal. In tiny England anything further than a mile is a big effort. So although Amsterdam is only 250 miles away, it may as well be on another planet. Bear in mind that 10% of kids on an estate in Brighton haven’t been to the beach (walking distance). Mind you, Amsterdam appeals to Englanders because it has drugs and prostitution. Carol should feel at home there – it’s just like Maple Ridge, or Norm’s holiday home.

Aydin Coban Latest

 

A mixed post today.

Aydin Coban’s story is getting worse and worse.

“Aydin C is in jan. 2012 veroordeeld in België voor onder meer fraude. Hij kreeg 1 jaar cel. Of hij gezeten heeft is onduidelijk.”

Aydin C is Jan. 2012 sentenced in Belgium to include fraud. He was given one year sentence. Whether he has been unclear.” (This looks like he had changed a job permit/construction license – nothing pervey).

I don’t know what to make of that. Has he been in prison before? If it’s true, it puts him out of circulation for most of 2012, but still leaves it feasible that he was around at the time of Tyler Boo, which was late 2011.

His house was bugged, and he was listening to music with lyrics ‘Let’s dominate her..’.

He has five male victims – four English, one Australian. Nobody will have much sympathy with them, as they were allegedly enticed by an underage boy.

Carol Todd has arrived, but sits away from the Press.

The men were blackmailed and made payments to accounts linked to where Aydin Coban lived.

Aydin insists that the accounts belonged to a guy called Murat. The mysterious Murat is the guy who Coban knew, and who is supposedly the owner of the computer. So we can guess that Coban will claim it was all Murat. Whatever the plea, it’s extremely odd that Coban and Murat just happen to be in the same place, but then again being guilty just because your friend is a pervert won’t see him go to jail. Just who is Murat?

31,500 euros of Western Union transactions traceable to Coban. Coban disputes the photos that were taken at the cash points. He has a certain arrogance about him.

There are telephone records of Coban speaking with a Western Union point.

One of the men lost his job (but like I said, there’ll not be much sympathy).

There’s an odd reference to a welfare agency (one of the men was told he was paying a welfare agency?).

Emails found from Mark Cameron (aka Coban) with instructions and links to victim’s Facebook account.

There seems to be a fuss because all of this is new evidence.

We get some personal details about Aydin. He has three siblings. Turkish parents, not a practicing Muslim. He only has contact with his mother.

Bought cars. Started a business. Lost money….. Played guitar on streets for money..

Later works with computers, fixing stuff and building websites.

Lost a load of money invested in Turkey.

C. borrowed from the Grey Wolves money. Murat. 8000 euros. He went anonymous life because he could not pay the money back and is afraid of Murat.

The mysterious Murat and the Grey Wolves again. This is quite some tale.

How is C. ‘life? He wants to be free and therefore lives as anonymously as possible. “The fewer people you know, the less trouble.”

Friends say that C is helpful. “He is very helpful and does not like to hurt others. He’s very quiet. “

Friends can not believe that C. is guilty. C. said to have been popular in school. He has had several relationships.

Follow the story:

https://twitter.com/TesselLinders?lang=en

https://twitter.com/mathijspennings?lang=en

http://www.omroepbrabant.nl/?news/261051482/Aydin+C.+pinde+in+Oisterwijk+en+Tilburg+duizenden+euros+van+slachtoffers.aspx

I’m still looking for this to be picked up by anybody outside of Holland, but there is still surprisingly little reaction from the Press. I was hoping they would be more helpful and do some of the translating for me.

Anyways. We’re still stuck in the Aydin Coban mire. He sure matches the profile for weirdos online, and seems to be clearly linked to various crimes. But who is Murat?

Jeez, it would be great if he just owned up to most of the nonsense, or at least told us who Murat is or where he is. It’s difficult to know just how good the evidence is, e.g. is it convincing enough to deal with someone who simply says “It wasn’t me it was Murat” all the time?

I’m guessing he’s been told to take a “No comment” approach until the end, when he seems to imply that all will be revealed, but unless he has something extraordinary to offer, I can’t see him getting away with it.

I’m guessing that there will be another couple of days of evidence just to ram it all home, which will be boring. Nothing interesting will happen until the final day, which is supposed to be February 15th. I’m not getting excited. He’ll deny it all, blame Murat, get sentenced, then probably appeal. I’m not sure if he is meant to be found guilty of the whole shebang, or if each case will be treated as a separate entity, which will make it even more confusing.

Until then….